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Eppur si muove.

Yes, and yet it moves. Good news from Slovenia today. Our government opened a broad public discussion about new so called Family Code. There's something really big and important in it. Homosexual couples should get the same rights as heterosexual ones - marriage and the right to adopt children included. The minister for family affairs said today: "We do believe that gay people were born as they are and we have absolutely no right to deny them what's rightfully theirs. And we will be very strict when it comes to defending those rights."

It is going to be wild, I know, but I am a happy little LJ-er now. I do love my country even more.

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gorkabear
Sep. 21st, 2009 09:32 pm (UTC)
OMG... That sounds like a copy of what was done in Spain: Fair and easy
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:46 am (UTC)
It seems so, yes. And I hope they manage to take it through the parliament soon. :)
westcbear
Sep. 21st, 2009 09:38 pm (UTC)
Hooray for Slovenia!! (I was checking Slovenia out on Wikipedia. It's very beautiful there. You guys have the same weather as we do here. :o) Maybe a bit more snow.)
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:46 am (UTC)
Thanks, Andreas! :) Yes, Slovenia is pretty. You should come and see it sometimes.
bygbrat
Sep. 21st, 2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
WOOT!!!!!! congratulatioins!!!!
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:47 am (UTC)
Thanks! There's still some hope for us! :)
fba
Sep. 21st, 2009 09:50 pm (UTC)
Excellent! I wish things were like that here. Instead of getting the same rights as hetrosexuals we get new legislation that gives us equivalent rights that could so easily be rendered in-equivalent by new legislation 'promoting family values'...
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:50 am (UTC)
Yes, things are moving in the right direction here. Liberal gov't is doing a good job. And once the code will have passed the parliament procedure, it's "safe". No referendum whatsoever is possible on legislation that deals with human rights.

So, it's a big YAY!
badrobot68
Sep. 21st, 2009 09:53 pm (UTC)
And some day, 50 or 100 years from now, America might get to that point as well!
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aadroma
Sep. 21st, 2009 10:14 pm (UTC)
Congratulations!! I knew Slovenia was getting to this point and I'm glad it did.

It is, though, a bit embarassing how much "catch-up" my own country needs to do. Hell, even ALBANIA will have gay marriage before us.
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:53 am (UTC)
Well, I really like European, "let's not care about religion too much" approach. Makes things much easier. It's funny actually. Even American Democrats can easily be considered conservative in Europe.
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paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:53 am (UTC)
Well, I am sure it will happen eventually.

Well, I hope.
tilia_tomentosa
Sep. 21st, 2009 10:25 pm (UTC)
*gasp* *reads again and tries to believe her eyes*

Here in Bulgaria, the Judiciary Committee of our previous parliament decided to drop "cohabitation", even for hetero couples, out of the new Family Code bill. "Traditional values", you know. Not even really religious - just bloody fuckin' patriarchal. Never mind the epidemic of divorces and the many young hetero couples who live together and even have children without being married.

OMG, do mitjablazic and vksi have some real chance of getting married?

And is there something about this in English in some "official" place? My friend Radoslav aka Stalik has a blog for such news (in Bulgarian), but he doesn't understand Slovene.
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:57 am (UTC)
Yes, it's moving. "Traditional values" will lose the battle here, I think.

Will have to look for English stuff.
putzmeisterbear
Sep. 21st, 2009 10:57 pm (UTC)
Thant makes me feel warm and happy inside. Your country is more progressive than ours sadly.
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:57 am (UTC)
We're tiny and more or less god-free, so it's easier.

hugs
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london1967
Sep. 21st, 2009 11:25 pm (UTC)
Amen to that!
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:57 am (UTC)
Amen indeed! :)
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paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:58 am (UTC)
Well, the US need to de-god a bit first. :)
nzguy1
Sep. 22nd, 2009 01:21 am (UTC)
A wonderful development for human rights in general, and especially for gay rights. Hope it doesn't meet too much opposition.
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 10:04 am (UTC)
It is moving in the right direction. Oh, I am sure there will be fighting and opposition, but once the bill is laid open like this one, it's usually a "go". Usually.
osodecanela
Sep. 22nd, 2009 01:26 am (UTC)
Great news Tomaz, great news indeed.

I just got an email today; there are 94 co-sponsors in the House of Representatives introducing a bill to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act here in the US. That would require the federal government plus all American states & terratories to recognize any marriage that's been performed in any state where said marriage was legal, just as it is for straight folk. Doubt it will pass the Senate, but we shall see.
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:59 am (UTC)
Yes, I was really happy when I saw what happened. So things are slowly going towards some better times. :)
jawnbc
Sep. 22nd, 2009 01:41 am (UTC)
That's super Tomaz! Will it get through parliament?
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 09:59 am (UTC)
It really is great. Well, if they manage to do it within a year, it will go through. Liberal majority in the parliament is big enough. And no referendum is poosible on legistation regarding human rigths.
inbhirnis
Sep. 22nd, 2009 03:05 am (UTC)
I doubt that that will happen here in my lifetime. Yay for Slovenia!
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 10:00 am (UTC)
So time to move again? With Orchids and all? :)
wrascalism
Sep. 22nd, 2009 03:09 am (UTC)
Hurrah for Slovenes!

paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
We rock! :)
fuzzyjay
Sep. 22nd, 2009 03:42 am (UTC)
Congratulations! (The USA just dropped down another notch.)
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
Thanks, Jay! :) The USA needs some boost.....
olamina
Sep. 22nd, 2009 05:59 am (UTC)
I am interested to see how this goes.

I am opposed the "gays were born that way" argument. I don't think people are born straight or gay. And frankly, I think relegating sexual orientation as a "scientific problem" could easily lead in the direction of "Hey, let's find a breed the 'gay gene' OUT of babies" or something. In my opinion, there is no gay or straight gene, but a lot of people would rather relegate desires to a dark corner while they deal with "science".

Nonetheless, I am proud of the queer activists who are really pushing this issue here in Slovenia. I've been amazed to talk to Gorenjska grandmas who are very openminded on these issues. This is what progress looks like,
paterson_si
Sep. 22nd, 2009 10:03 am (UTC)
Yes, it will surely be very interesting to see how things develop. Left gov't is - for now - strong enough to push it through the parliament. And if there are more people similar do grandmas in Gorenjska, there's still some hope.
ubermunkey
Sep. 23rd, 2009 01:43 pm (UTC)
what a wonderful thing to read!

This makes me happy as well.

Cheers and a hug.

paterson_si
Sep. 23rd, 2009 10:10 pm (UTC)
See? we're not only pretty, we're also good. :)
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sparkytwmonkey
Sep. 23rd, 2009 02:27 pm (UTC)
Welcome, Slovenia, to the 21st Century!!

While I am not a fan of forcing marriage or morals on those who do not want it, I do believe in equal rights.

I just wish the religious and conservative zealots would realize the marriage is purely a religious ceremony, and just a personal extension of the law. "Declaring before God..." and all that. I like that seperation of Church and State.
paterson_si
Sep. 23rd, 2009 10:11 pm (UTC)
I am with you on that one. Let's not force it, but let us all have same chances.
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