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Reporting, updating or living?

I was slightly rude the other day and I think I need to explain it, because I still feel slightly shitty about it. I usually, well at least I try to, use more tact when responding to posts. One of my LJ-friends started his post with a this sentence: "I haven't had much new and exciting to report lately." and me, being the occasional bitch as I am, replied with "I get shivers when I see the word "report", "update" and whatnots in LJ. We don't report, we don't update, we live, we offer ideas, little bits of our lives that make us kick or move or block us for that matter."

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I still feel bad about it, not least because the post came from a very nice and kind person, but also because I normally don't post bitter replies. (I hope.) So, sorry, Dan. But a few more sentences on the matter. I was thinking a lot about what I wrote and what actually triggers my replies or the absence of them for that matter.
I usually get a kick out of reading and replying to sparky, happy, joyful, creative, naughty, diverse, vivid, picturesque, sexy... you name it posts. And also posts that offer some sort of insight into a person who's posting all that.
And no-no's? Negativity, whining, endless complaining and bitching, "I really don't have anything to say"-stuff, diary-style posts that just offer schedule of one's day, posts that just pour malice all over the LJ-land. I don't want to be the sewage of the day. I can get plenty of that at work, thanks. :)

So what does turn you on or off while browsing your f-list?

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estudioso
Sep. 4th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Well, I think it's pretty valid what Dan (whom I don't know): Sometimes there's nothing new or exciting to report. It's not that you have a most boring life, it's just that sometimes life can be very predictable and not worth writing about. Personally, although I've recently posted mainly updates, LJ has a more editorial quality. And in my life now, my writing energy is diverted mainly to work stuff (which I happen to find in its own way pretty exciting)

As I posted days back, I've become an avid Facebook user. One of the main draws to me is that with FB, I can share important stuff to me in a very brief way (but not as brief as in twitter) and still get to an audience of folks that I really care about. Granted, sometimes I happen to think "mmm I should post this on LJ" but then I get busy in other stuff, and forget about it. But,to be honest, I've found the FB experience very gratifying as well. Even when my list only updates/reports I find those bits enough because I know they are living rich and fulfilling lives.

Sometimes, less is more.

paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
I know it is valid, it was just that my red alert went on as I remembered numerous times when I was sitting in front of my computer, reading posts and I was going "What the hell should I reply now" and I really wanted to. And I also faced a severe back off push when I hit the constant wall of whining and negativity.

As for FB. If what you say it's true then you are probably one of a very few FB users that try to put some content in their status messages. "It will be a lovely day", "oh, Monday", "is getting a haircut" which I noticed way too often just don't do the trick for me.

Less is more sometimes, yes. When it comes to minimalising electronics. :)
estudioso
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:51 pm (UTC)
Less is more sometimes, yes. When it comes to minimalising electronics. :)

oh you didn't. oh you didn't! :P
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:53 pm (UTC)
Oh I did. :)
tilia_tomentosa
Sep. 4th, 2009 10:35 pm (UTC)
Remember when I called my entries "Madhouse Report"? LOL

I can take a lot of complaining and bitching, especially when it's part of somebody's healing process. Not that I like it, but I can show some understanding... up to a point. I've done quite some of it myself after all.

I hate it when people actively create drama and/or demand attention NOW. My own bitchiest reply on LJ was "I don't spend all my time on the computer".

I specially like all kinds of insights, memories,(meaningful)reflections, creativity. Photos of my friends, of nature, flowers, pets, funny photos, sexy photos, creative photos, and of course photos of My Favourite Gay CouplesTM.

This is what comes to my mind now, and I'm still in far from perfect shape.
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, I remember your madhouse reports and I have to say I really had to dig deep, deep in my patience warehouse to stay clear of really bitter remarks, because very often I though that you are generating drama there. Deliberately and fiercely. LOL But that's another story and we're not going there now, right?

Yes, photos often do the trick for me. Because a picture really can tell a lot sometimes.

And your mind is pretty okay. Even now.
tilia_tomentosa
Sep. 5th, 2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
Generating drama? Yes. Deliberately? No. I had just fallen in love with the wrong man, and didn't know how to deal with it in a less dramatic way. Not to mention losing my supposed friends one by one (it had started before I joined LJ). Not to mention being the only person sensible enough to try to solve the problems that affected everybody, bring the warring sides to cooperate on some common task, negotiate with the professors, etc. On top of all that was the phase when all my suppressed emotions exploded in my head, and I had to pour them out somehow. I'm really grateful for your patience and support... although you did snap at me a couple of times, remember? :)

As for our cultural differences, have you watched "My Big Fat Greek Wedding? Of course there is some comical exaggeration, but still... that's your typical Balkan culture, drama all the time. But the drama at the Madhouse was too much even for me. That was already beyond my culture, going Latin American soap opera. And I didn't know how to respond in a non-dramatic way...

My long series of plant photo posts was not just learning to use my new camera, it was taking a break from everything, and slowly learning some inner peace, too early to be expressed in words.
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 02:55 pm (UTC)
Snapping. I was pretty close to it a couple of times, because if someone did to me what you were doing, he or she would get a fairly obvious "mind your own business" from me, but I held back. :)

Yes, taking pictures is a soothing therapy, especially when you focus on stuff that means something to you. I know how that feels. And there are a lot of plants in Ljubljana for you to take pics of. :)

dan4behr
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC)
First off T, I really didn't take any offense on that.
As a matter of fact, you made me think more about what I have to say and think more about what I write. A bit of constructive criticism is always a good thing for all of us!

Most of the time, I end up editing shortly after I hit the "post" button. Once a post goes up on a page, I often see it differently than when it went from my head to keyboard. I end up adding more (or perhaps taking away) content that seemed pertinent or came to mind after reading the posting.
As you might have noticed after starting that particular entry, things came to mind and it ended up being a fairly long post. I should've edited that opening sentence. It was lame. The first thing they tell you in journalism school - get'em interested at the outset and then you have 'em till the end.

BTW, I've often admired not only your visual talent, but your journalistic skills as well. I should also tell you that when I read postings by you and several others, I'm often dumbfounded that it's coming from someone whose native language isn't even English. I don't even know a second language (unless you count seventh grade French). I'm constantly impressed and inspired by what (and how) you write here.

I take what you say as a means to improve not only here in LJ land but other written endeavors. No hard feelings on my part, believe me...
:)
airporter
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:09 pm (UTC)

Most of the time, I end up editing shortly after I hit the "post" button


I'm totally with you on that!
dan4behr
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:24 pm (UTC)
I really DO try to catch those "WTF - did I really write that?" moments...
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:42 pm (UTC)
hehehehehehe sometimes I also really suprise myself. Sometimes it happens that I can't even remember emotion frame that pushed me to write whatever landed on the screen.

Our minds are really mysterious places.......
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:41 pm (UTC)
I sometimes edit stuff, especially when I notice some of those "start serving -> starving" moments. And, of course, when my spelling puts me to shame. :)
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:40 pm (UTC)
Ok, Dan, I am happy you are not holding anything against me, because I really felt bad because of what I did. You are one of those people that really don't deserve bad manners from me. But yes, the first sentence just caused "oh god, not this" effect and I almost lost the drive to go on with reading. Yes, now when you wrote it, it did occur to me that giving an attractive start, holding the thread and then ending with a bang is what I try to do when I am writing work stuff. And it is rather important, because "stories" for news are up to two minutes long and you know that's not much text. So I've learned to be efficient.

And flattery can take you places, Dan. I am really grateful for what you've wrote about visuals and language and all. I guess it comes from the constant drive to create something different, something new, to learn something and then - eventually - to find out if the final product, no matter what media, achieves desired effect or goal.

And that's just the nature of us, people. We learn, polish and sometimes make a little better through conversation and other interaction of all kinds. That's what makes us all so special.

Hugs, Dan!
jawnbc
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)
fat uncut Slovenia cock

Also negativity, particularly if it's dressed up as being clever. I need people who are positive. There's a big difference between acknowledging challenges and being a miserable unpleasant person.
zedsled
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
I just spit Diet Coke all over my laptop when I read that.
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:45 pm (UTC)
I hope you managed to wipe it all off.

Coke, that is. From your ...light. :)
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:44 pm (UTC)
takes one to know one? sans "Slovenian" and "uncut" :)

Well, I am totally on you with negativity and painful, fruitless sarcasm. I also need people who are positive, I get my well needed dose of energy and drive from them. I am a people's person.
airporter
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:08 pm (UTC)
Hmmm... My entries range all over the place - from whinging about health or my grandmother, to road rage, and from those negatives to travelogues and the positives that make up my daily life.

And there are times where I'm kind of quiet on LJ - it's not that life isn't happening - goodness knows it never stops! - it's more that I'm waiting for the right moment to chronicle a number of things. Sometimes it's just a need to think about them further.

To your comment, I don't see it as particularly rude, rather a more philosophical argument on the nature of life in itself and how it gets reflected in LJ. What tidbits we each choose to relate in here is of import to some, none to others - you're one of those who reads and comments on a great deal of what you read, intelligently and caringly, with the occasional lovingly crafted sarcastic moment or two.

Given your normal care in response, I'd hope that the gent in question was able to see your comment as well-intentioned if not your usual caringly formed. I'd certainly be trying to, given my experience to date with you.
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:49 pm (UTC)
Yes, you nailed that one. Your blog is a very diverse and colourful one and you are a very rich, deep person who does spend a lot of time to observe the world. And that shows and I like "reading you", Will. Yes, I do read a lot and I try to reply when I can and when I think that I have something to say, because I know pretty well that blogs are not diaries. They are public, we expose ourselves, we try to see what we have to say will do to the ones who take some time to read it.

And I will use your words to describe your reply to this post.

Caringly formed.

HUGS, Will.
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tilia_tomentosa
Sep. 4th, 2009 11:56 pm (UTC)
Ugh tweets!
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:51 pm (UTC)
Dis.
Gusting.
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:51 pm (UTC)
I also try to keep it more or less light and fluffy, because life as it is can be quite shitty and I don't want to get overy sucked in it all even during my time off. :)

Yes, negativity is the biggest turn off. It even made me defriend some people. I just couldn't handle it anymore.

And when I feel that I don't have anything to say, I'll probably be dead. :)
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paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:53 pm (UTC)
Ok.... I will take this lesson, Cor. :) Well, I guess occasional bitching is part of my work I guess and it's made its way in my "normal" life as well. Or was it the other way around? Who could tell.........

Be good, ok?
fba
Sep. 5th, 2009 05:09 pm (UTC)
I have to admit I don't post much to LJ any more, but a lot of that is because I can't really post at work and by the time I get home I've got no major motivation. I do read though and comment if I think I've got something useful to say...
paterson_si
Sep. 5th, 2009 05:16 pm (UTC)
Oh I post and reply a lot. From work, from home, from my mobile, even while visiting Igor's parents. Which is the case now. :)
fba
Sep. 6th, 2009 08:57 pm (UTC)
I used to post and comment a lot more back in the day, but a lot of the people I've known on LJ for many years (and longer from other places) seem to have migrated elsewhere. I'm trying to get re-engaged with the LJ community, but writing long posts doesn't come easily any more. I have used LJ to vent a bit at times, but I would hope its never been a complete mire of misery. Maybe I should cross post the entries I write for 'the other place'...
paterson_si
Sep. 6th, 2009 09:03 pm (UTC)
Well, apart from chats, LJ is the only blog I reall use. I think I can tell all on one place alone. :)
fba
Sep. 6th, 2009 09:21 pm (UTC)
The main reason that the bear stuff is on Blogspot is because I wanted them to be public, but LJ is rather too identifiable as me and I wanted it semi-anonymous...
paterson_si
Sep. 6th, 2009 09:28 pm (UTC)
And look what I put on LJ. :)
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paterson_si
Sep. 6th, 2009 12:42 pm (UTC)
*clutches pearls*
hylandr
Sep. 6th, 2009 11:55 pm (UTC)
I'm guessing that because mine hasn't been all happy and naughty lately is what got me dropped. Oh, well. Best of luck and it's been nice knowing you.
paterson_si
Sep. 7th, 2009 09:45 am (UTC)
No, it's a total lack of interaction. Blogging is a two way thing. At least in my book it is.

Take care and all the best, bud.

xxx
manley1
Sep. 8th, 2009 04:43 pm (UTC)
You pretty much listed what my ups and downs are for LJ. Insanely long posts full of LOLCat also make me skip past entries as well (e.g. "I can haz moar plz" = retch).

I tend to skip past people who don't write meaningful, concise pieces unless I'm really bored. LJ is at its best when you get some sort of insight into someone and at its worse when people drone on and on about some pedantic thing you don't care about.
paterson_si
Sep. 8th, 2009 04:50 pm (UTC)
Long posts also wear me out. I just don't feel like reading 10 000 characters about office gossip or something. And yes, LOLCats also make me hit delete.

Content and insight (and some pics) is what drives me when I am decicing what to do with a certain post. And a person that's behind it.
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